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Line 203 (hderiv_zetaA's final `ring`): goal `deriv (fun w => w−1) (1+s) * ζ(1+s) + (1+s−1) * ζ′(1+s) = ζ(1+s) + s * ζ′(1+s)` — the rw [h1] didn't fire! h1 : deriv (fun w => w−1) (1+s) = 1 — the goal still shows `deriv (fun w => w - 1) (1 + s)` — wait, the goal displayed has `deriv (fun w => w - 1) (1 + s) * riemannZeta (1 + s)` — so rw [h1] failed?? No wait — the error is "unsolved goals" at 203:63 — the `ring` after rw [h1] — but the goal still contains deriv (fun w => w−1). Hmm, so rw [h1] did NOT rewrite. Why? h1 : deriv (fun w : ℂ => w - 1) (1 + s) = 1 — the goal has deriv (fun w => w−1) (1+s) — same?? Unless the rw [hsplit, deriv_mul hf ...] produced `deriv (fun w => w − 1) (1+s)` in a slightly different form... it displays identically. OH WAIT — I see: the error position 203:63 is at the `ring` line but the rw [h1] was BEFORE ring in my chain: `rw [hsplit, deriv_mul hf ..., h1]`? Let me check what I wrote: ``` have hf : DifferentiableAt ℂ (fun w : ℂ => w - 1) (1 + s) := differentiableAt_id.sub_const 1 rw [hsplit, deriv_mul hf (differentiableAt_riemannZeta hs1')] have h1 : deriv (fun w : ℂ => w - 1) (1 + s) = 1 := by simp using ((hasDerivAt_id' (1 + s)).sub_const 1).deriv rw [h1] ring ``` The goal: deriv (fun w => w−1) (1+s) * ζ(1+s) + (1+s−1) * ζ′(1+s) = ζ(1+s) + s*ζ′(1+s). rw [h1] rewrites deriv (fun w => w−1) (1+s) → 1 ✓ should match... The displayed goal STILL has the deriv — so either rw [h1] failed silently (no — rw errors loudly), or this displayed goal is AFTER rw [h1] and the deriv that remains is `deriv riemannZeta` (yes! there are TWO derivs: deriv (fun w => w−1) and deriv riemannZeta). The displayed goal: `deriv (fun w => w - 1) (1 + s) * riemannZeta (1 + s) + (1 + s - 1) * deriv riemannZeta (1 + s) = ...` — the FIRST deriv is still there. Hmm. Wait — maybe rw [h1] DID fire and the displayed goal is the state where ring failed — if rw [h1] fired, the goal would show `1 * riemannZeta (1+s) + ...`. It shows `deriv (fun w => w - 1) (1 + s) * ...` — so rw [h1] did NOT fire, but rw doesn't fail silently... UNLESS h1's proof itself — `simp using ((hasDerivAt_id' (1 + s)).sub_const 1).deriv` — did that produce h1 in a different form? The context shows `h1 : deriv (fun w => w - 1) (1 + s) = 1` ✓ looks right. Hmm — OR: the goal's deriv is `deriv (fun w => w - 1) (1 + s)` and h1's LHS is `deriv (fun w : ℂ => w - 1) (1 + s)` — identical display. But maybe bound-variable TYPE ascriptions differ?? Both ℂ. Wait — look at the error position: 203:63. Let me count lines: 203 might be the `ring` line. If rw [h1] had failed, the error would be at rw [h1]'s position. So rw [h1] succeeded... but then why is the deriv still in the goal? OH — I bet the issue: after `rw [hsplit, deriv_mul hf (differentiableAt_riemannZeta hs1')]`, the deriv_mul's output form: deriv f (1+s) * ζ(1+s) + f(1+s) * deriv ζ (1+s) where f := fun w => w−1: f (1+s) = (fun w => w−1) (1+s) — a BETA REDEX! displayed as `(1 + s - 1)` ✓ (Lean beta-reduces in display). And deriv f (1+s) displayed as deriv (fun w => w−1) (1+s) ✓. rw [h1] should rewrite it... Hmm wait, actually — maybe the problem is that `ring` just couldn't handle the goal because after rw [h1] the goal is `1 * ζ(1+s) + (1+s−1)*ζ′(1+s) = ζ(1+s) + s*ζ′(1+s)` — ring SHOULD close that (1+s−1 → s ✓ ring normalizes). But the DISPLAYED failing goal has `deriv (fun w => w - 1) (1 + s)` — so rw [h1] did NOT fire. Unless... the `simp using` produced h1 : deriv (fun w => w - 1) (1+s) = 1 but the goal's deriv is actually over a different sub-expression... they're identical in display. Hold on — maybe the error at 203:63 is from `rw [h1]`?? 203:63 — column 63 — if line 203 is `rw [h1]`... col 63 is too far for `rw [h1]`. It's probably the `ring` line... ugh. Actually wait — maybe the problem is that `simp using` CHANGED h1: maybe simp turned `((hasDerivAt_id' (1+s)).sub_const 1).deriv`'s value `1 - 0` into... it produced h1 : deriv (fun w => w-1) (1+s) = 1 as displayed ✓. Let me look at the exact current text around line 195-210 to see what happened.
The `rw [h1]` in hderiv_zetaA seemingly didn't fire. Inspecting the current text.
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