← Session 33 — ii′-3b/3c crux + F-D finding; Lagarias letter package
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E-023's B_bound: `twoN = 2 * (F_count(T) + S_bound(T))`. So the code charges **2·(F+S_b)** for the zero-sum bridge. The question: is their "2N(T)" the both-signs count? If the honest bridge needs 4·(F+S_b), the code (and the paper) undercounts by 2·(F+S_b) — the factor-2 slip is in the code too. Let me verify what F_count is (the one-sign Trudgian F) — from D-036 §0: "N(T) (Trudgian 2014, Thm 1): N(T) = F(T) + S(T), F(T) = (T/2π)log(T/2πe) − T/2π + 7/8" — that's the one-sign classical N. So `twoN = 2·(F+S_b)` is used as the bound for |λ_n(T)| where λ_n(T) = Σ_{|γ|≤T} (both signs). Honest: |λ_n(T)| ≤ 2·(both-signs count) = 2·(2·N_one-sign) = 4N = 4·(F+S_b)...
Hmm wait — hold on, unless their λ_n(T) convention is the one-sided sum. Let me think about what the contour argument actually gives. The rectangle is symmetric [−T, T]. The residue sum is over zeros INSIDE — both signs. D-036 §4: "|λ_n(√n)| ≤ 2N(√n) ≤ 2F(√n) + 2S(√n)". If N(√n) is one-sign and the sum is both-signs: honest = 4N. If N(√n) is both-signs: then N ≤ F+S_b needs F both-signs — Trudgian's F is one-sign — wrong.
Hmm, but wait — maybe I should double check Trudgian's convention. Some authors (e.g., Backlund, and Trudgian following him?) define N(T) as the count for |γ| ≤ T?? No — Trudgian 2014 "An improved upper bound for the argument..." defines N(T) = #{ρ : 0 < γ ≤ T} standardly (that's why S(T) = arg relates). And F(T) = (T/2π)log(T/2πe) + 7/8 is the one-sign main term (von Mangoldt). The both-signs count is 2N(T) + (zeros at γ=0? none).
Hmm, BUT — actually, let me reconsider: maybe D-036/D-037's "N(T)" IS the both-signs count and they quoted Trudgian's F as a bound for it by mistake (a genuine factor-2 slip), OR they meant one-sign and undercounted the sum. Either way: the honest bridge is 4·(F_one-sign + S_b) and the paper/code charge 2·(F+S_b) — undercount by exactly 2× on that term. At n = 10⁵: 2F ≈ 589 (0.17% of Bn) — immaterial; at N₁: 2F ≈ 2.8×10¹³ vs margin 2.46×10²⁶ — immaterial. R-004's theorem is SAFE. But the Lean assembly must charge 4F honestly, and the paper's B(n) formula needs the erratum.
Hmm — hold on, wait. Let me reconsider whether |λ_n(T)| ≤ 2·(count) really needs both signs... λ_n(T) := Σ_{ρ : |γ_ρ| ≤ T}′ (1 − (ρ/(ρ−1))ⁿ). Both signs ✓ (the rectangle contains both). Yes.
Actually — wait, actually, let me look at Lagarias's own paper (6.7)-ish: his λ_n(T) = Σ_{|γ|≤T} [1−(ρ/(ρ−1))ⁿ] — and his bound... Lagarias Thm 6.1's proof: |λ_n(T)| ≤ 2N(T)... if Lagarias himself uses N(T) = both-signs count and his "N(T) = F(T)+S(T)" — hmm, Lagarias (2.7)-ish quotes N(T) = (T/2π)log(T/2πe) + O(log T) — the one-sign count. If Lagarias also writes |λ_n(T)| ≤ 2N(T) with both-signs sum and one-sign N... that would be a slip in Lagarias too, inherited by D-036. OR the standard trick: |λ_n(T)| ≤ Σ_{|γ|≤T} 2 = 2·(both-signs count) = 4N — and Lagarias writes 2N(T) where his N(T) IS the both-signs count... Some authors DO define N(T) as both-signs (e.g., Titchmarsh defines N(T) for 0 < γ ≤ T; Ivić too). Hmm.
Let me check what Lagarias actually writes — research/paper has math/0404394. Let me grep the PDF text for λ_n(T) and N(T) conventions... Actually this level of forensics isn't necessary for the DESIGN: the honest Lean bridge is determined by the math, not by what Lagarias/D-036 wrote: |λ_n(T)| ≤ 2·mult-weighted-both-signs-count ≤ 2·(2·FAlt) = 4·FAlt. The paper erratum will note the accounting. Whether Lagarias slipped too is a write-up question for ii′-7.
Let me quickly check Lagarias's convention in the local PDF anyway — it matters for the paper erratum wording.
E-023's code confirms `twoN = 2·(F+S_b)` — the factor-2 question is real. Checking Lagarias's own convention for the erratum wording.
tool: Bash
input
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