← Session 35 — ii′-6-R: Lagarias 6.1 right-tail re-proof (E-032/D-073)
thinking (4045 chars)
1. **Line 2160**: `div_eq_div_iff h1 h2` — div_eq_div_iff's signature wants `≠ 0` args, not `0 <`: `div_eq_div_iff (hb : b ≠ 0) (hd : d ≠ 0) : a / b = c / d ↔ a * d = c * b` — fix: pass `h1.ne'`/`h2.ne'`:
```
rw [div_eq_div_iff h1.ne' h2.ne']
ring
```
2. **Line 2190 (tactic execution timeout)**: the rw [div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_left ...] in hbridge — timeout. The div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_left's form: `(ha : 0 < a) (hb : 0 < b) (hc : 0 < c) : a/b < a/c ↔ c < b` — I passed `(by norm_num : (0:ℝ) < 1) (by linarith [hn0] : 0 < 3n) (by linarith [hn0] : 0 < 2n)` — and then `linarith [hn0]` — the timeout at tactic execution at 2190:2 — hmm, maybe the rw [div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_left ...] rewrote `1/(3n) < 1/(2n)` to `2n < 3n` ✓ then linarith [hn0] closes ✓ — the timeout is at 2190:2 — the rw itself timed out?? — or the div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_left's unification looped. Let me use a completely manual approach for hbridge:
```
have hbridge : (1 : ℝ) / (3 * n) < 1 / (2 * n) := by
have h1 : (0 : ℝ) < 2 * n := by linarith [hn0]
have h2 : (0 : ℝ) < 3 * n := by linarith [hn0]
rw [show (1 : ℝ) / (3 * n) = (1 / 3) * (1 / n) by field_simp [hn0.ne'],
show (1 : ℝ) / (2 * n) = (1 / 2) * (1 / n) by field_simp [hn0.ne']]
have h3 : (0 : ℝ) < 1 / n := one_div_pos.mpr hn0
have h4 : (1 : ℝ) / 3 < 1 / 2 := by norm_num
exact mul_lt_mul_of_pos_right h4 h3
```
The field_simp [hn0.ne'] for `1/(3n) = (1/3)·(1/n)` ⟺ n = 3·... hmm: 1/(3n) vs (1/3)(1/n): ⟺ 3n·(1/3) = n·1 ⟺ n = n ✓ — field_simp might loop again on the reciprocal products. Even simpler and field_simp-free:
```
have hbridge : (1 : ℝ) / (3 * n) < 1 / (2 * n) := by
have h1 : (0 : ℝ) < 2 * n := by linarith [hn0]
have h2 : (0 : ℝ) < 3 * n := by linarith [hn0]
rw [div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_right h1, one_mul, lt_div_iff₀ h2, one_mul]
linarith [hn0]
```
div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_right (hc : 0 < c) : a/c < b/c ↔ a < b — rw on the goal `1/(3n) < 1/(2n)` with c := 2n: turns it into `1/(3n)·(2n) < 1`?? no — div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_right (hc : 0 < c) : a / c < b / c ↔ a < b — applying to `1/(3n) < 1/(2n)`: `1/(3n)·... ` hmm — the goal `1/(3n) < 1/(2n)` — div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_right with c := 2n matches the RHS's `/ (2n)`?? — it matches `a/c < b/c` with c := 2n — but the LHS is `1/(3n)` — that's not of the form `a/(2n)`!! — the iff needs BOTH sides over the same c. So div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_right doesn't apply (denominators differ: 3n vs 2n). My earlier use was wrong.
The right lemma for `1/(3n) < 1/(2n)` (different denominators, same numerator): div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_left (ha : 0 < a) (hb : 0 < b) (hc : 0 < c) : a/b < a/c ↔ c < b — with a := 1, b := 3n, c := 2n: `1/(3n) < 1/(2n) ↔ 2n < 3n` ✓ — I HAD this right! The timeout was in `linarith [hn0]` after the rw?? — or the rw's unification looped. The error at 2190:2 — the `rw [div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_left ...]` — col 2 — the rw tactic's execution timed out — possibly because div_lt_div_iff_of_pos_left's proof-term elaboration with the (by norm_num) args looped?? — or the subsequent `linarith [hn0]` (at the next line) timed out. Let me avoid the iff entirely with the two-step mul approach:
```
have hbridge : (1 : ℝ) / (3 * n) < 1 / (2 * n) := by
have h1 : (0 : ℝ) < 2 * n := by linarith [hn0]
have h2 : (0 : ℝ) < 3 * n := by linarith [hn0]
rw [div_eq_div_iff h2.ne' h1.ne']
linarith [hn0]
```
div_eq_div_iff (hb : b ≠ 0) (hd : d ≠ 0) : a/b = c/d ↔ a·d = c·b — wait, that's for EQUALITY. For the `<`: there's `div_lt_div_iff (hb : 0 < b) (hd : 0 < d) : a/b < c/d ↔ a·d < c·b` — with a := 1, b := 3n, c := 1, d := 2n: `1/(3n) < 1/(2n) ↔ 1·(2n) < 1·(3n)` ⟺ 2n < 3n ✓ linarith [hn0] ✓. div_lt_div_iff exists? — likely (parallel to div_eq_div_iff). Let me grep.
3. **Line 2165 whnf timeout**: the lt_three's `rw [e]` — e's new div_eq_div_iff form — after fixing h1.ne'/h2.ne' + ring, the e should prove — the whnf timeout at 2165 (the `rw [e]` or the div_lt_div_of_pos_right) — cascade.
Let me check div_lt_div_iff and fix everything.
Checking `div_lt_div_iff`'s exact form and fixing with the `≠ 0`-style args.
tool: Bash ok
input
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}
result 2026-08-26 11:17:54Z → 2026-08-26 11:17:54Z
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