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η_new matches the Stieltjes reference to ~1e-154 at j=80-90 (diffs ~1e-154 — that's σ-tail level ~14^{1-m}·zero-tail? no — these diffs ARE the σ-from-zeros zero-tail (k>100): tail_m ~ 0.2·236.5^{1−m}: at m=81: 0.2·236.5^{−80} = 2e-191?? but diff at j=80 is 5.6e-154!?! Hmm — much bigger than the tail bound. What is 5.6e-154 at η_80? η_80 = (−1)^{81}[(1−2^{−81})ζ(81) − 1 + σ_81]: diff from reference = |σ_81(new) − σ_81(true)| = 5.6e-154. σ_81 ~ 2·14^{−81} = 10^{−92.7}: relative 5.6e-62. The zero-tail k>100 at m=81: 0.2·236.5^{−80} = 2e-191 — NOT the cause. So σ_81 from zeros (k ≤ 100, γ dps 450, sums dps 1700) is wrong at 5.6e-154?!? OR the reference is wrong: Stieltjes at 1600-digit strings, recursion at dps 1700, k=81: the recursion loses digits? Stability at k ≤ 110 validated to 1e-597 at dps 1000... η_80 ~ 2.3e-39: ref error would be ~1e-1700·stuff. Hmm, diff 5.6e-154 — where does 1e-154 come from?! Whatever it is, it's SMALL (relative 5.6e-62 at j=80, decaying as ~14^{−j}·e^{...}: diffs: j=80: 5.6e-154, j=82: 2e-156, j=84: 6e-159, j=86: 9.4e-162, j=88: 6.5e-164, j=90: 9e-166 — decaying ~×40 per 2 = ×6.3/j... ≈ (1/6.3)^j?? log: 154, 156, 159, 162, 164, 166: +2.3/j: ≈ (1/200)^j?? 10^{2.3} = 200 ✓ ~ 200^{−j}·const. What's 200^{−j}? The zero-tail (k>100) at γ_100 = 236.5: 236.5^{−j}·(density/log): tail_m(k>100) = Σ_{k>100}2Re ρ_k^{−m} ≈ 2∫_{236.5}^∞ (log(t/2π)/2π)t^{−m}dt ≈ (log(236.5/2π)/π)·236.5^{1−m}/(m−1)·... ≈ 3.63/π·236.5^{1−m}/(m−1)·... hmm ≈ 1.16·236.5^{1−m}/(m−1): at m=81: 1.16·236.5^{−80}/80 = 1.16·10^{−189.9}/80 = 1.8e-194. NOT 5.6e-154. So the diffs are NOT the zero-tail. 200^{−j}: γ at dps 450 → error ~1e-450... no. What is ~236.5^{−j}? 236.5^{−81} = 10^{−192} no. 10^{−154} at j=80: 10^{1.93·j}: r = 1/85?? Hmm — 14.13^{−j}·C: 14^{−80} = 1e-91.7: 5.6e-154/1e-91.7 = 5.6e-62.3: relative 5.6e-62. What has relative error 5.6e-62?! γ_1's accuracy: γ_1 from zetazero at dps 450 → 1e-450. NOT. Sum at dps 1700: 1e-1700. NOT. Hmm — 5.6e-154 at j=80 with law ~200^{−j}: 200 = ... γ_{100}?? = 236.5. 200^{−80} = 10^{−184}: no. 85^{−80} = 10^{−154.2}!!! 85?? Weird. Or maybe it's σ_m error from... let me think: σ_m from 100 zeros: the ERROR could be dominated by the mpmath pow at dps 1700?? r**(−81) for r = 0.5+14.13i: pow via exp(−81·log r): mpmath log/exp at 1700 digits ✓ accurate. OR — the diff is in the REFERENCE (Stieltjes recursion at k=80-90, dps 1700): recursion error ~? The recursion at k=90 from dps 1700: if it loses ~15 digits/step·... measured earlier: at dps 550, k ≤ 110: matched dps-1000 to 1e-552 (loss < 0). Hmm so recursion is stable. OK WAIT — actually, does it even MATTER? The diffs are ~1e-154 at j=80 decaying — S_f impact: C(n,80)·5.6e-154 at n=3000: C(3000,80) ~ 10^{161}·5.6e-154 = 5.6e7?!?! THAT'S THE 1.7e7 OBSERVED ERROR (same order)!!! And growth: C(n,80) ~ n^{80}/80!: from 2200→3000: (1.36)^{80} = e^{24.7} ✓ matches the n^{82} fit roughly (n^{80}: (2400/2200)^{80} = e^{6.95} = 1050 vs 1166; (2600/2400)^{80} = e^{6.4} = 602 vs 695 ✓; (2800/2600)^{80} = e^{5.93} = 375 vs 425 ✓; (3000/2800)^{80} = e^{5.52} = 250 vs 278 ✓✓). YES — n^{80} fits too (slightly better than n^{82} even). So the dev = C(n,80)·ε_80 with ε_80 = 5.6e-154?!? Hmm, but at n=3000: 10^{161}·5.6e-154 = 5.6e7 vs observed 1.7e7 — factor 3 off, with j=81,82 contributing smaller corrections ✓ consistent. So the residual dev at n=3000 = the η_80 diff (5.6e-154) amplified by C(3000,80). To kill it: need η_80 accurate to ~1e-30/C(5000,80) = 1e-30/10^{180} = 1e-210. Currently 5.6e-154. What IS the 5.6e-154 at j=80?! It decays ~200^{−j}. OH WAIT!!! I bet it's the ZERO-TAIL of σ_m — but from zeros k > 1000 or the N(T) shape... tail_m(k>100) = 2Re Σ_{k>100}ρ_k^{−m}: I bounded |tail| ≤ 1.16·236.5^{1−m}/(m−1) = 1.8e-194 at m=81. Hmm that's the BOUND. 5.6e-154 ≫ 1.8e-194 — 40 orders bigger. NOT the tail. What about zeros k ≤ 100 with γ from zetazero at dps 450 — cached as 400-digit strings ✓. ρ^{−81} for the FIRST zero: |ρ|^{−81} = 14.13^{−81} = 10^{−93}: at dps 1700 ✓. Hmm, 5.6e-154: what about the SECOND zero's contribution to σ_81: ρ_2^{−81} = 21.02^{−81} = 10^{−107}: γ_2 at 400 digits ✓... OK here's another candidate: the reference! My Stieltjes reference for j=80-90 used strings at 1600 digits and recursion at dps 1700 — but wait, I set mp.mp.dps = 1700 BEFORE parsing gam ✓. flint.ctx.prec = 6000 bits = 1805 digits ✓. Recursion stable. Hmm, so reference should be exact to ~1e-1600. Actually — you know what, let me test σ_81 directly: compute σ_81 = (−1)^{80}(τ_80 − η_80) + 1 EXACTLY (τ_80 from cache, η_80 from reference Stieltjes — both accurate) and compare with the zeros-based σ_81 from compute_eta. That isolates whether the zeros-based σ_81 is wrong vs the reference η_80.
Diffs at j=80+ (~5.6e-154, decaying ~200^{−j}) — C(n,80) amplification explains the dev. Isolate: compute σ₈₁ exactly (τ−η) vs the zeros-based value.
tool: Bash
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  "command": "cd /d/Python/Quantum && ./.venv/Scripts/python.exe - <<'EOF'\nimport mpmath as mp, flint, json\nzeta_str = {int(k): v for k, v in json.loads(open(\"research/numerics/data/E-021-zeta-cache.json\").read()).items()}\n# reference eta to k=90 (same as before)\nflint.ctx.prec = 6000\nmp.mp.dps = 1700\ngam = [mp.mpf(flint.acb.stieltjes(k).real.str(1600, radius=False)) for k in range(92)]\nN_=[mp.mpf(0)]*92; D_=[mp.mpf(0)]*92; N_[0]=D_[0]=1\nfor m in range(0,91): D_[m+1]=(-1)**m*gam[m]/mp.factorial(m)\nfor m in range(1,91): N_[m+1]=-(-1)**m*gam[m]/mp.factorial(m-1)\nE=[mp.mpf(0)]*92\nfor k in range(0,92):\n    s=N_[k]\n    for i in range(1,k+1): s-=D_[i]*E[k-i]\n    E[k]=s\nref=[E[k+1] for k in range(91)]\n# exact sigma_m for m=80..90 via tau-eta\ntau = {}\nfor j in range(79, 90):\n    z = mp.mpf(zeta_str[j+1])\n    tau[j] = (-1)**(j+1)*(1-mp.mpf(2)**(-(j+1)))*z\nfor m in range(80, 91):\n    sig_exact = ((-1)**(m-1)*(tau[m-1]-ref[m-1]) + 1)\n    print(f\"sigma_{m} exact = {mp.nstr(sig_exact, 20)}\")\n# zeros-based from cache\ng100 = [mp.mpf(v) for v in json.loads(open(\"research/numerics/data/E-021-zeros100-hi-cache.json\").read())]\nrho = [mp.mpc(mp.mpf(\"0.5\"), g) for g in g100]\nfor m in range(80, 91):\n    sig_z = 2*mp.re(sum(r**(-m) for r in rho))\n    print(f\"sigma_{m} zeros = {mp.nstr(sig_z, 20)}\")\nEOF",
  "description": "Exact vs zeros sigma for m=80..90",
  "timeout": 600000
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[{"type":"thinking","thinking":"η_new matches the Stieltjes reference to ~1e-154 at j=80-90 (diffs ~1e-154 — that's σ-tail level ~14^{1-m}·zero-tail? no — these diffs ARE the σ-from-zeros zero-tail (k>100): tail_m ~ 0.2·236.5^{1−m}: at m=81: 0.2·236.5^{−80} = 2e-191?? but diff at j=80 is 5.6e-154!?! Hmm — much bigger than the tail bound. What is 5.6e-154 at η_80? η_80 = (−1)^{81}[(1−2^{−81})ζ(81) − 1 + σ_81]: diff from reference = |σ_81(new) − σ_81(true)| = 5.6e-154. σ_81 ~ 2·14^{−81} = 10^{−92.7}: relative 5.6e-62. The zero-tail k>100 at m=81: 0.2·236.5^{−80} = 2e-191 — NOT the cause. So σ_81 from zeros (k ≤ 100, γ dps 450, sums dps 1700) is wrong at 5.6e-154?!? OR the reference is wrong: Stieltjes at 1600-digit strings, recursion at dps 1700, k=81: the recursion loses digits? Stability at k ≤ 110 validated to 1e-597 at dps 1000... η_80 ~ 2.3e-39: ref error would be ~1e-1700·stuff. Hmm, diff 5.6e-154 — where does 1e-154 come from?!\n\nWhatever it is, it's SMALL (relative 5.6e-62 at j=80, decaying as ~14^{−j}·e^{...}: diffs: j=80: 5.6e-154, j=82: 2e-156, j=84: 6e-159, j=86: 9.4e-162, j=88: 6.5e-164, j=90: 9e-166 — decaying ~×40 per 2 = ×6.3/j... ≈ (1/6.3)^j?? log: 154, 156, 159, 162, 164, 166: +2.3/j: ≈ (1/200)^j?? 10^{2.3} = 200 ✓ ~ 200^{−j}·const. What's 200^{−j}? The zero-tail (k>100) at γ_100 = 236.5: 236.5^{−j}·(density/log): tail_m(k>100) = Σ_{k>100}2Re ρ_k^{−m} ≈ 2∫_{236.5}^∞ (log(t/2π)/2π)t^{−m}dt ≈ (log(236.5/2π)/π)·236.5^{1−m}/(m−1)·... ≈ 3.63/π·236.5^{1−m}/(m−1)·... hmm ≈ 1.16·236.5^{1−m}/(m−1): at m=81: 1.16·236.5^{−80}/80 = 1.16·10^{−189.9}/80 = 1.8e-194. NOT 5.6e-154. So the diffs are NOT the zero-tail.\n\n200^{−j}: γ at dps 450 → error ~1e-450... no. What is ~236.5^{−j}? 236.5^{−81} = 10^{−192} no. 10^{−154} at j=80: 10^{1.93·j}: r = 1/85?? Hmm — 14.13^{−j}·C: 14^{−80} = 1e-91.7: 5.6e-154/1e-91.7 = 5.6e-62.3: relative 5.6e-62. What has relative error 5.6e-62?! γ_1's accuracy: γ_1 from zetazero at dps 450 → 1e-450. NOT. Sum at dps 1700: 1e-1700. NOT.\n\nHmm — 5.6e-154 at j=80 with law ~200^{−j}: 200 = ... γ_{100}?? = 236.5. 200^{−80} = 10^{−184}: no. 85^{−80} = 10^{−154.2}!!! 85?? Weird. Or maybe it's σ_m error from... let me think: σ_m from 100 zeros: the ERROR could be dominated by the mpmath pow at dps 1700?? r**(−81) for r = 0.5+14.13i: pow via exp(−81·log r): mpmath log/exp at 1700 digits ✓ accurate.\n\nOR — the diff is in the REFERENCE (Stieltjes recursion at k=80-90, dps 1700): recursion error ~? The recursion at k=90 from dps 1700: if it loses ~15 digits/step·... measured earlier: at dps 550, k ≤ 110: matched dps-1000 to 1e-552 (loss < 0). Hmm so recursion is stable.\n\nOK WAIT — actually, does it even MATTER? The diffs are ~1e-154 at j=80 decaying — S_f impact: C(n,80)·5.6e-154 at n=3000: C(3000,80) ~ 10^{161}·5.6e-154 = 5.6e7?!?! THAT'S THE 1.7e7 OBSERVED ERROR (same order)!!! And growth: C(n,80) ~ n^{80}/80!: from 2200→3000: (1.36)^{80} = e^{24.7} ✓ matches the n^{82} fit roughly (n^{80}: (2400/2200)^{80} = e^{6.95} = 1050 vs 1166; (2600/2400)^{80} = e^{6.4} = 602 vs 695 ✓; (2800/2600)^{80} = e^{5.93} = 375 vs 425 ✓; (3000/2800)^{80} = e^{5.52} = 250 vs 278 ✓✓). YES — n^{80} fits too (slightly better than n^{82} even). So the dev = C(n,80)·ε_80 with ε_80 = 5.6e-154?!? Hmm, but at n=3000: 10^{161}·5.6e-154 = 5.6e7 vs observed 1.7e7 — factor 3 off, with j=81,82 contributing smaller corrections ✓ consistent.\n\nSo the residual dev at n=3000 = the η_80 diff (5.6e-154) amplified by C(3000,80). To kill it: need η_80 accurate to ~1e-30/C(5000,80) = 1e-30/10^{180} = 1e-210. Currently 5.6e-154.\n\nWhat IS the 5.6e-154 at j=80?! It decays ~200^{−j}. OH WAIT!!! I bet it's the ZERO-TAIL of σ_m — but from zeros k > 1000 or the N(T) shape... tail_m(k>100) = 2Re Σ_{k>100}ρ_k^{−m}: I bounded |tail| ≤ 1.16·236.5^{1−m}/(m−1) = 1.8e-194 at m=81. Hmm that's the BOUND. 5.6e-154 ≫ 1.8e-194 — 40 orders bigger. NOT the tail.\n\nWhat about zeros k ≤ 100 with γ from zetazero at dps 450 — cached as 400-digit strings ✓. ρ^{−81} for the FIRST zero: |ρ|^{−81} = 14.13^{−81} = 10^{−93}: at dps 1700 ✓.\n\nHmm, 5.6e-154: what about the SECOND zero's contribution to σ_81: ρ_2^{−81} = 21.02^{−81} = 10^{−107}: γ_2 at 400 digits ✓... \n\nOK here's another candidate: the reference! My Stieltjes reference for j=80-90 used strings at 1600 digits and recursion at dps 1700 — but wait, I set mp.mp.dps = 1700 BEFORE parsing gam ✓. flint.ctx.prec = 6000 bits = 1805 digits ✓. Recursion stable. Hmm, so reference should be exact to ~1e-1600.\n\nActually — you know what, let me test σ_81 directly: compute σ_81 = (−1)^{80}(τ_80 − η_80) + 1 EXACTLY (τ_80 from cache, η_80 from reference Stieltjes — both accurate) and compare with the zeros-based σ_81 from compute_eta. That isolates whether the zeros-based σ_81 is wrong vs the reference η_80.","signature":""},{"type":"text","text":"Diffs at j=80+ (~5.6e-154, decaying ~200^{−j}) — C(n,80) amplification explains the dev. 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