← Session 27 — ii′-5c/5d: Davenport disc + FE-reflection bounds
thinking (5874 chars)
Still failing at 275:2 — and 275 is `· -- the series case` — WAIT. The error position 275:2 with "case hsplit" — that's the BULLET position of the series case, and the "unsolved goals" are the hsplit goal. This means the hsplit proof's tactics (rw [hker_summ...]) is being attributed... no — the "case hsplit" unsolved goal persists across ALL my variants. And the position 275:2 (the series-case bullet) suggests: the hsplit proof completed WITHOUT closing (rw succeeded but left the goal), and Lean reports the leftover at the... no.
Hmm wait — actually — maybe the issue: `rw [hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N]` rewrites the goal's RHS (head + tail) into ∑' main — but there might be a MISMATCH between the goal's terms and h's because the goal's `N` — hold on, the goal shows `N : ℕ := ⌈w.re⌉₊` — a set local-def — and h's range N — same N ✓.
Let me try the NUCLEAR option to see what's happening: prove hsplit by `exact?`-style — no. Let me try:
```
have h := hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N
convert h.symm using 3
```
convert with depth 3 would produce per-component goals (the finite sums, the tsums, then per-term) — and any residual reveals the mismatch. OR — the real possibility I keep missing: maybe `sum_add_tsum_nat_add`'s f gets instantiated NOT to my lambda but to something with the casts folded differently — e.g., hker_summ's lambda body is `((↑n + 1) * (A + ↑n + 1))⁻¹` but the lemma's `f (i + N)` becomes `((↑(i + N) + 1) * (A + ↑(i + N) + 1))⁻¹` while my goal's tail written as `((((n + N : ℕ) : ℝ) + 1) * (A + ((n + N : ℕ) : ℝ) + 1))⁻¹` — `((n + N : ℕ) : ℝ)` vs `↑(n + N)` — hmm — ARE these the same? `((n + N : ℕ) : ℝ)` is `Nat.cast (n + N)` — and the lemma's `↑(i + N)` is also Nat.cast (i+N) — same ✓.
OK — different hypothesis: maybe the error "case hsplit ... unsolved goals" at 275:2 is actually about a DIFFERENT hsplit — is there another hsplit? No — only one. But the error line is 275:2 — the series-case bullet — because the hsplit have is INSIDE the series case and... the elaboration of the hsplit's `exact (hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N).symm` — if that raises "unsolved goals" the position would be the exact's position (~line 320), not 275. Position 275:2 with case hsplit — hmm, `case hsplit` refers to the GOAL TAG — the hsplit have's goal got the tag "hsplit"?? no — goals don't get named hsplit from a have. UNLESS — the by_cases hwint produced cases "pos"/"neg" — "case neg" IS shown as the second error context! And "case hsplit" — there's no by-case named hsplit... UNLESS the `have hsplit` created a goal TAG hsplit? No — haves don't tag.
OH WAIT. I see it now! The "case hsplit" and "case neg" are the TWO errors: "case hsplit" with the hsplit goal unsolved at position 275:2 — the series-case bullet. And "case neg" as a SECOND error further down. The by_cases hwint : ∃ m... — its two branches get tags `pos` and `neg` — "case neg" is the series case (hwint : ¬...) — tagged "neg" ✓. And "case hsplit"?? — there's no by-case hsplit. UNLESS my `have hsplit : ... := by` — no. Hmm — the error at 275:2 says "case hsplit" — maybe Lean attributes the unsolved hsplit goal to the nearest enclosing position... I'm confused by the attribution but the substance is clear: hsplit remains unproved after `rw [hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N]`.
Let me look at what `rw [h]` did: if rw [h] rewrote the goal's RHS (head+tail) → ∑' main, the new goal would be ∑' main = ∑' main — rfl closed. If the error persists, the rw produced a NON-rfl goal — i.e., h's LHS didn't match my head+tail exactly. The residual would show... but the shown goal is the ORIGINAL hsplit statement — meaning rw [h] rewrote NOTHING visible? If rw [h] rewrote my RHS into ∑' main, the residual goal would be `∑' main = ∑' main`-rfl — auto-closed by rw. Since the residual = original, the rw [h] FAILED to find its LHS pattern in my goal?? then rw errors "pattern not found" — NOT shown. So rw [h] succeeded and left the SAME goal — impossible unless the rewrite was a no-op...
I'm going in circles. Let me get the RAW h type via #check in a probe that mimics the set-context... Actually — better idea: maybe the problem is that `Summable.sum_add_tsum_nat_add` when applied via dot-notation on hker_summ gives the result with f instantiated to the lambda but WITHOUT beta — and the probe's trace display auto-betas while the raw term keeps `(fun n => ...) (i+N)` redexes, and rw's matching (syntactic up to reducible-defeq) fails against my applied forms. The PROBE's trace showed beta-REDUCED forms — but traces pretty-print with beta... ARGH.
Definitive fix avoiding all of this: don't use the lemma — prove the split via `Summable.tsum_eq_sum_add...`? Or use the two-step: `tsum_eq_sum_add_tsum_...`? Let me look for a lemma that directly gives `∑' = ∑ + ∑'`: the NNReal one: `sum_add_tsum_nat_add (k) (hf) : ∑ i ∈ range k, f i + ∑' i, f (i+k) = ∑' i, f i` for ℝ≥0 — its proof: `(((summable_nat_add_iff k).2 hf).sum_add_tsum_nat_add').symm` — so the underlying general lemma is `Summable.sum_add_tsum_nat_add' (h : Summable fun n => f (n + k)) : ∑' n, f (n+k) + ∑ i ∈ range k, f i = ∑' i, f i`?? and the unprimed IS what I have. The matching issue is beta. Sledgehammer: `convert` with maximal depth + per-term congr:
```
rw [hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N |>.symm]??
```
no. Use convert:
```
have h := hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N
convert h.symm using 2
```
convert ... using 2: goes two levels: the equality a = b: convert gives · = · component goals: LHS tsum vs h's tsum: convert produces (fun eq) goals: the functions equal: funext + per-term: at using 2 depth, the per-term goals would be like ((↑n+1)*(A+↑n+1))⁻¹ = ((↑n+1)*(A+↑n+1))⁻¹ — rfl closed by convert automatically... and the finite sums similarly. If there's a form difference, convert leaves it visible. Let me try `convert h.symm using 2`.
Trying `convert` with depth to expose where the form mismatch actually is.
tool: Edit
input
{
"file_path": "D:\\Python\\Quantum\\research\\lean\\NguyenRH1\\NguyenRH1\\LiDigammaLeft.lean",
"old_string": " rw [hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N]",
"new_string": " have h := hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N\n convert h.symm using 2"
}
raw content_json (database row)
[{"type":"thinking","thinking":"Still failing at 275:2 — and 275 is `· -- the series case` — WAIT. The error position 275:2 with \"case hsplit\" — that's the BULLET position of the series case, and the \"unsolved goals\" are the hsplit goal. This means the hsplit proof's tactics (rw [hker_summ...]) is being attributed... no — the \"case hsplit\" unsolved goal persists across ALL my variants. And the position 275:2 (the series-case bullet) suggests: the hsplit proof completed WITHOUT closing (rw succeeded but left the goal), and Lean reports the leftover at the... no.\n\nHmm wait — actually — maybe the issue: `rw [hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N]` rewrites the goal's RHS (head + tail) into ∑' main — but there might be a MISMATCH between the goal's terms and h's because the goal's `N` — hold on, the goal shows `N : ℕ := ⌈w.re⌉₊` — a set local-def — and h's range N — same N ✓. \n\nLet me try the NUCLEAR option to see what's happening: prove hsplit by `exact?`-style — no. Let me try:\n```\n have h := hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N\n convert h.symm using 3\n```\nconvert with depth 3 would produce per-component goals (the finite sums, the tsums, then per-term) — and any residual reveals the mismatch. OR — the real possibility I keep missing: maybe `sum_add_tsum_nat_add`'s f gets instantiated NOT to my lambda but to something with the casts folded differently — e.g., hker_summ's lambda body is `((↑n + 1) * (A + ↑n + 1))⁻¹` but the lemma's `f (i + N)` becomes `((↑(i + N) + 1) * (A + ↑(i + N) + 1))⁻¹` while my goal's tail written as `((((n + N : ℕ) : ℝ) + 1) * (A + ((n + N : ℕ) : ℝ) + 1))⁻¹` — `((n + N : ℕ) : ℝ)` vs `↑(n + N)` — hmm — ARE these the same? `((n + N : ℕ) : ℝ)` is `Nat.cast (n + N)` — and the lemma's `↑(i + N)` is also Nat.cast (i+N) — same ✓.\n\nOK — different hypothesis: maybe the error \"case hsplit ... unsolved goals\" at 275:2 is actually about a DIFFERENT hsplit — is there another hsplit? No — only one. But the error line is 275:2 — the series-case bullet — because the hsplit have is INSIDE the series case and... the elaboration of the hsplit's `exact (hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N).symm` — if that raises \"unsolved goals\" the position would be the exact's position (~line 320), not 275. Position 275:2 with case hsplit — hmm, `case hsplit` refers to the GOAL TAG — the hsplit have's goal got the tag \"hsplit\"?? no — goals don't get named hsplit from a have. UNLESS — the by_cases hwint produced cases \"pos\"/\"neg\" — \"case neg\" IS shown as the second error context! And \"case hsplit\" — there's no by-case named hsplit... UNLESS the `have hsplit` created a goal TAG hsplit? No — haves don't tag. \n\nOH WAIT. I see it now! The \"case hsplit\" and \"case neg\" are the TWO errors: \"case hsplit\" with the hsplit goal unsolved at position 275:2 — the series-case bullet. And \"case neg\" as a SECOND error further down. The by_cases hwint : ∃ m... — its two branches get tags `pos` and `neg` — \"case neg\" is the series case (hwint : ¬...) — tagged \"neg\" ✓. And \"case hsplit\"?? — there's no by-case hsplit. UNLESS my `have hsplit : ... := by` — no. Hmm — the error at 275:2 says \"case hsplit\" — maybe Lean attributes the unsolved hsplit goal to the nearest enclosing position... I'm confused by the attribution but the substance is clear: hsplit remains unproved after `rw [hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N]`.\n\nLet me look at what `rw [h]` did: if rw [h] rewrote the goal's RHS (head+tail) → ∑' main, the new goal would be ∑' main = ∑' main — rfl closed. If the error persists, the rw produced a NON-rfl goal — i.e., h's LHS didn't match my head+tail exactly. The residual would show... but the shown goal is the ORIGINAL hsplit statement — meaning rw [h] rewrote NOTHING visible? If rw [h] rewrote my RHS into ∑' main, the residual goal would be `∑' main = ∑' main`-rfl — auto-closed by rw. Since the residual = original, the rw [h] FAILED to find its LHS pattern in my goal?? then rw errors \"pattern not found\" — NOT shown. So rw [h] succeeded and left the SAME goal — impossible unless the rewrite was a no-op... \n\nI'm going in circles. Let me get the RAW h type via #check in a probe that mimics the set-context... Actually — better idea: maybe the problem is that `Summable.sum_add_tsum_nat_add` when applied via dot-notation on hker_summ gives the result with f instantiated to the lambda but WITHOUT beta — and the probe's trace display auto-betas while the raw term keeps `(fun n => ...) (i+N)` redexes, and rw's matching (syntactic up to reducible-defeq) fails against my applied forms. The PROBE's trace showed beta-REDUCED forms — but traces pretty-print with beta... ARGH.\n\nDefinitive fix avoiding all of this: don't use the lemma — prove the split via `Summable.tsum_eq_sum_add...`? Or use the two-step: `tsum_eq_sum_add_tsum_...`? Let me look for a lemma that directly gives `∑' = ∑ + ∑'`: the NNReal one: `sum_add_tsum_nat_add (k) (hf) : ∑ i ∈ range k, f i + ∑' i, f (i+k) = ∑' i, f i` for ℝ≥0 — its proof: `(((summable_nat_add_iff k).2 hf).sum_add_tsum_nat_add').symm` — so the underlying general lemma is `Summable.sum_add_tsum_nat_add' (h : Summable fun n => f (n + k)) : ∑' n, f (n+k) + ∑ i ∈ range k, f i = ∑' i, f i`?? and the unprimed IS what I have. The matching issue is beta. Sledgehammer: `convert` with maximal depth + per-term congr:\n```\n rw [hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N |>.symm]?? \n```\nno. Use convert:\n```\n have h := hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N\n convert h.symm using 2\n```\nconvert ... using 2: goes two levels: the equality a = b: convert gives · = · component goals: LHS tsum vs h's tsum: convert produces (fun eq) goals: the functions equal: funext + per-term: at using 2 depth, the per-term goals would be like ((↑n+1)*(A+↑n+1))⁻¹ = ((↑n+1)*(A+↑n+1))⁻¹ — rfl closed by convert automatically... and the finite sums similarly. If there's a form difference, convert leaves it visible. Let me try `convert h.symm using 2`.","signature":""},{"type":"text","text":"Trying `convert` with depth to expose where the form mismatch actually is."},{"type":"tool_use","id":"Edit_343","name":"Edit","input":{"file_path":"D:\\Python\\Quantum\\research\\lean\\NguyenRH1\\NguyenRH1\\LiDigammaLeft.lean","old_string":" rw [hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N]","new_string":" have h := hker_summ.sum_add_tsum_nat_add N\n convert h.symm using 2"},"extra_content":null}]